Wednesday, March 1

Democracies that protect human rights, America under the present admistration obviously is not one!

"In countries that pride themselves on being long-standing democracies that protect human rights, the revelation of these allegations should have sparked off reactions and categorical condemnations several months ago, but this was not the case," Mr Marty stated .

"there were people who were kidnapped and transferred with no rights. There are camps in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay outside any legal system. Others have been taken in Europe and rendered to other countries for unacceptable treatment."

In early December the US position was summed up in a statement from the US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice before her visit to Europe.

She said that the United States did not "permit, tolerate, or condone torture under any circumstances." It also "respected -- and will continue to respect -- the sovereignty of other countries," and "does not transport, and has not transported, detainees from one country to another for the purpose of interrogation using torture."

It all depends on how you skate the definition of torture around "it is not torture if there is not death or emminant organ failure" we are told

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